Hello everyone.
I wanted to discuss what everyone thinks of these YouTube channels who push this brand of casino?
My own personal opinion is they are fake as fuck.
There are 3 prominent UK based YouTubers let's call them BS (apt), AG and SII. Over the last few months they have each massively ramped up the stakes and from what we know about their personal and professional lives they don't justify the expenditure. Some of the reason I believe they are fake is the following:
- Often they will do bonus hunts by running 2+ slots at the same time to speed up the collecting. That's fine, we all do that. Problem is that you can't do that as a normal player on those casinos. I've spoken to Live Chat and had it confirmed, try it for yourself, it doesn't work. Now open the games in demo play and see that it does indeed work.
- They were effectively called out as another streamer (SS) revealed details from an affiliate manager that their players can't deposit and use casino funds only.
- On their videos we never see the deposit or withdrawal process, and where casinos are not in question, such as All British Casino the deposits are often a fair bit lower / with a deposit bonus.
- Suddenly they don't care about the YouTube revenue to mute copyrighted content anymore. I understand YouTube revenue isn't huge but why wouldn't you do the work if you're in the business of making money from this? They aren't supposed to be loaded.
- Finally, I may be wrong here but how are screens like the following possible?
Can anyone provide conclusive proof that you can get the R below the F with a legitimate play? I don't see how it's possible, unless if you close the bonus and the trigger screen is re-arranged when you re-open it in an unnatural way.
These are the things the UKGC needs to be focussing on.
What are your thoughts?
I dont see how anyone would be able to manipulate the playing of a big time gaming slot, other than big time gaming themselves, and they wouldn't do that. they make enough money legitimately
Any streamer that makes that miraculous jump from playing 40p - £1 stakes to £10 and up regularly, in a short space of time, without having shown a reason for it (e.g. big hit(s)) is now on their knees sucking and swallowing that sweet fake money.
Streaming costs money, whatever stake. You have to have the revenue coming in to sustain streaming. If I was to do it I would have to use my wages (as I work) and stream in my spare time. Even then, majority of the time I probably wouldn't be able to cash out and the budget would soon go. I think this is what happens to most. They need more revenue to keep going and therefor sell out, unless they are savvy and treat it as a business and make additional legit revenue streams. Some of the longer term streamers are the latter and I consider genuine.
As much as they wind you up (they do me) best practice with fake streamers is to ignore their content and the mindless sheep that follow them saying 'I predict a bonus in the next 10 spins' and seem to have no jobs as they watch live all the time.
Remember, most fake streamers are degenerate gamblers feeding their habit. The more you gamble, the more you want that buzz that you get. Its hard for them to break in-between sessions. They say they do not have an addiction but that's bullshit.
If you could not stream/produce a video without legit showing your bank account with the deposits/withdrawals (fuck bullshit wallets, all money comes from your bank), you'd see so many streamers disappear.
P.S. I can not stand AyeZee. He epitomises pieces of fuck faced scum bag fake streamers.
We already know some providers give out various maths models and the casinos are not upfront about switching to them. What's to say there isn't a 120% RTP version that these peoples' accounts open? In the same way I'm from the UK so I don't see the version with bonus buying, but if I register an account from Malta I'll get the bonus buy button available. Just speculating here.
Anyway the point of my post is whether these casinos are providing fake funds and I think it's a poorly kept secret.
@Joystick91
I will deal with the issues you have raised separately.
There is little doubt in my mind that these three streamers you have noted are provided a concerted effort to promote a small number of casinos who presumably reward them accordingly. The commonality of their promotions and the narrative gives them away. SII are you refer to often states "we" are giving away etc and this is perhaps a subconscious utterance of the true position.
The volume of their streams is clearly designed to leverage a larger share of the viewers and in fairness the streams are ok. The streamers, for the most part, play at entirely sensible stakes and are reasonably proficient at what they do. The streams are perhaps not totally fake however neither are they genuine.
Even with this somewhat opaque relationship and all of the conspiracy theories surrounding this the prospect of BGT becoming involved in anything dubious is simply not credible. I chuckle at the complaints about Crazy Time being rigged with "brakes" etc. Evolution Gaming are one of the most successful and reputable companies in the gaming space and the prospect of risking even a small portion of the £22bn and rising that the company is valued at would be commercial idiocy. BGT are in the same space reputationally. Any such notions that the vast majority of game providers would consider "tampering" with games is just fanciful. More likely than not it is a glitch and nothing of consequence.
The UKGC is likely to become more heavily involved in the regulation of affiliates and may even seek to licence them. The relationship between casinos and affiliates is all too often seen as that of arms length and if the regulation results in any form of joint and several liability the streaming antics will become much less frequent. Affiliates at present are able to cross boundaries with almost no comeback and some casinos obviously see this as a way of circumventing the guidelines.
The truth is we are part of a rapidly changing dynamic where some parties are making hay whilst the sun shines with unethical practices and very misleading advertising. In the UK the responsibility for policing gambling related advertising content should rest with solely with the Gambling Commission and not the Advertising Standards Agency. What i am saying is that gambling content entirely for entertainment purposes should be unambiguously labelled as such.
Why you are ranting about this I have no clue! For the most part it is exactly what you allege it is but anyone with even an ounce of sense can already see that. If you do not like these streamers just ignore them