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« Back to General Discussion 04/10/2020 at 01:27 0 0 #7269 Icon showing author of the current post: Rowanvella Rowanvella
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I have seen a few people going off on one about how slots are "rigged" in streamers favor recently. First of all this is not possible as most games are hosted on the slot providers server and besides being able to preselect a version of a game with a slightly lower RTP before launching it, Which is the case with a few specific providers, PlayNgo being the main one they can't control the outcome of a game unless they're a completely rogue casino with pirated games. 

However, streamers will generally see a better return to player because of the simple fact that they play significantly more than the average punter, the more you play a game the more the RTP will come in to action. Mathematically speaking if you wagered 10k on a casino, you're much more likely to see a better RTP than if you wagered 1k. 

I just find it confusing how people could possibly alter a game to be in streamers favor. If you play consistently enough you will always see a few huge wins. 

Now fake money streamers are a different story...

04/10/2020 at 11:04 0 0 #7270 Icon showing author of the current post: Weemonk23 Weemonk23
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Just a quickie on what you said there that i find interesting. Are you saying with PlayNGo that when you launch the game it is a pre-selected game board where that board has specific spins? Meaning that if you choose a board that plays poorly, if you exit the game and start again you may get a pre-selcted game that plays better?  Rowanvella  

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04/10/2020 at 12:17 0 0 #7271 Icon showing author of the current post: pokersmasher pokersmasher
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"the more you play a game the more the RTP will come in to action. Mathematically speaking if you wagered 10k on a casino, you're much more likely to see a better RTP than if you wagered 1k. "

Did you even do basic maths at school?

That is seriously misleading to anyone who plays and does not understand how slots actually work.

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04/10/2020 at 21:59 0 0 #7278 Icon showing author of the current post: Rowanvella Rowanvella
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 Weemonk23  Sorry, I did not explain that as well as I could have. Certain casinos have different RTPs for Playngo games. When choosing to host a provider they can pick a lower RTP version of the game. So Book Of Dead can have different RTP at different casinos. RTP would not change every time you launch a game.

@pokersmasher It's not misleading... the RTP is never going to be 100% on a slot. So obviously the more you play the more money you will lose! On the flip side of that though, the more you play the more big wins you will get as well as sessions that will end up in profit. If I play through ten pounds, the odds of me getting a big win are much lower than if I play through 100. If you play multiple sessions and spend thousands.... then you will at times, have the RTP working in your favor more often.

Gambling is not a way to make money, nor is it going to yield a profit over time. The casino is the only one that always wins.

It is however, basic knowledge that the more you play the higher your odds are of getting a big win. 

That is pretty basic maths.


04/10/2020 at 22:10 0 0 #7279 Icon showing author of the current post: Rowanvella Rowanvella
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My pointless rant aside though, it is definitely worth noting that the RTP on PlaynGo can range from 94% - 98% depending on where you play!

I won't mention which casinos, as it could come across as me trying to promote casinos, but it's definitely something to take into consideration when choosing where to play.  

04/10/2020 at 23:01 0 0 #7280 Icon showing author of the current post: pokersmasher pokersmasher
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Rowanvella Profile - 04/10/2020 at 21:59

 Weemonk23  Sorry, I did not explain that as well as I could have. Certain casinos have different RTPs for Playngo games. When choosing to host a provider they can pick a lower RTP version of the game. So Book Of Dead can have different RTP at different casinos. RTP would not change every time you launch a game.

@pokersmasher It's not misleading... the RTP is never going to be 100% on a slot. So obviously the more you play the more money you will lose! On the flip side of that though, the more you play the more big wins you will get as well as sessions that will end up in profit. If I play through ten pounds, the odds of me getting a big win are much lower than if I play through 100. If you play multiple sessions and spend thousands.... then you will at times, have the RTP working in your favor more often.

Gambling is not a way to make money, nor is it going to yield a profit over time. The casino is the only one that always wins.

It is however, basic knowledge that the more you play the higher your odds are of getting a big win. 

That is pretty basic maths.



Not basic enough it seems!

I'll leave it to others, who can actually be bothered, to explain this to you.

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05/10/2020 at 00:11 0 0 #7281 Icon showing author of the current post: Rowanvella Rowanvella
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pokersmasher Profile - 04/10/2020 at 23:01

Rowanvella Profile - 04/10/2020 at 21:59

 Weemonk23  Sorry, I did not explain that as well as I could have. Certain casinos have different RTPs for Playngo games. When choosing to host a provider they can pick a lower RTP version of the game. So Book Of Dead can have different RTP at different casinos. RTP would not change every time you launch a game.

@pokersmasher It's not misleading... the RTP is never going to be 100% on a slot. So obviously the more you play the more money you will lose! On the flip side of that though, the more you play the more big wins you will get as well as sessions that will end up in profit. If I play through ten pounds, the odds of me getting a big win are much lower than if I play through 100. If you play multiple sessions and spend thousands.... then you will at times, have the RTP working in your favor more often.

Gambling is not a way to make money, nor is it going to yield a profit over time. The casino is the only one that always wins.

It is however, basic knowledge that the more you play the higher your odds are of getting a big win. 

That is pretty basic maths.



Not basic enough it seems!

I'll leave it to others, who can actually be bothered, to explain this to you.


There is nothing to explain. RTP is not based on your individual play, it's the overall amount a slot is supposed to pay out over its lifetime. The more you play a said slot, the more likely you are to hit a big win. 

Not sure why you're all on your high horse, eat a snickers or something. 

05/10/2020 at 16:39 0 0 #7285 Icon showing author of the current post: pokersmasher pokersmasher
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Just post the exactly the same comment on Casinomeister, Casinogrounds or Bandit's forum and see the responses you get.   There's no need whatsoever to take my word for it.

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